i would like your help in making a "timeline of beliefs" for jw's... for example, i want to start with:.
"a jw/bs would have believed the following in 1880:.
the last days started in 1799.. jesus's parousia occurred in 1874.. jesus started reigning in 1878.. the end of the harvest will be in 1914.. the end of the gentile times will be in 1914.. the end of the world will be in 1914.. belief in the ransom sacrifice is vital for salvation.. hell is not a bible doctrine.. .
The doctrine of Noo Lite is common to all cults, only the name changes. Anyone wanting to follow the timeline of any WT doctrinal changes has oodles of resources on the net and their WTCD.
If us non/ex/op/dubs need a list of tools, maybe it should rated on effectiveness rather than just another list to be ignored by the drones.
most of us here on jwn, while we can get a bit narky at times, can put forth intelligent arguments and sound observations.
sure we can get bogged down with our opinions, but generally we back up our opinions with examples and evidence, and if someone has a different opinion with examples and evidence, we accept that without recriminations.
that's what adults do.. so my question is, why in the last week or so, have a couple of posters claiming to be jws come onto this forum and berated, spewed hate and judgement, and in some cases verbally attacked members personally?
If you want to get somewhere with cult members, try getting them into love bombing mode and keeping them there until they leave.
if you want the short version, scroll down to "short version".. .
so i am at 1200 posts or so (only about 6 were probably of note), and i still havenlt told my story and probably won't for some time.
basically, i was a born in who has served in other countries, as an ms, and given talks etc... my wife and i were in foreign language, have co's we have counted as close family friends, and were basically the golden boy and girl of their respective areas.
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hello all this is my first post i've been having many doubts with all this "bright light" not changes lately... and with past changes such as this one not sure if i can post this but i guess i'll find out :.
Welcome to the forum AJ
the verse in the jw bible says "at babylon" but so does all the king james versions so what gives, and how does one find the proper translation of this scripture.
also what in your opinions is the most acurate translation of the bible?.
What is the NNWT 0.1 translation of Jeremiah 25:12? How does it fit with 29:10 in the KJV and NNWT 0.1?
the annual meeting seems to boil down to an opening talk about an "exciting new" bible museum and a closing talk about an "exciting new" new world translation.
sandwiched in between were the wt summary, a talk about indoctrinating the children fast/furious, and some "trip down memory lane.".
why would this "spiritual feast" seem to be anticlimactic?
I don't know what's going on in my Dad's head after yesterday's AGM, but he ain't a happy chappy and he's really feeling his age.
Praying for Paradise, and all he gets is another Bible?
Can't see the goal posts any more?
the annual meeting seems to boil down to an opening talk about an "exciting new" bible museum and a closing talk about an "exciting new" new world translation.
sandwiched in between were the wt summary, a talk about indoctrinating the children fast/furious, and some "trip down memory lane.".
why would this "spiritual feast" seem to be anticlimactic?
Grey is cheap this year so it'll just be a different shade
first 30 min announcing a collection of bibles collected from r & f that is to go on display at bethel.
also accounts of how they "miraculously" received bibles that they didn't think they could get - eg.
geneva bible.. now - watchtower study review as there is no meeting tomorrow..
" ... replace an item that we were a bit iffy about... " @ 25:10
So the Bible display is not comprehensive and is 'cherry picked'. I wonder which one they were 'iffy' about? It wouldn't happen to be one that they used to support their doctrine but was from a dubious, by their definition, character, now would it?
the annual meeting seems to boil down to an opening talk about an "exciting new" bible museum and a closing talk about an "exciting new" new world translation.
sandwiched in between were the wt summary, a talk about indoctrinating the children fast/furious, and some "trip down memory lane.".
why would this "spiritual feast" seem to be anticlimactic?
Die, and miss out on being part of 'The Great Crowd.
there have been several posts where individuals are asking if it is possible to hack into and watch the agm as it is streamed to the conventions.
i say it is not streamed live like many are assuming, but a recorded download played for the audience.. why?
a live stream has many possible points of failure.
Talking to a Dub who is setting it up for the local KH. It is streamed. They will be getting it at 10:00 am New Zealand time.
New York, Saturday, 5 October 2013 at 5:00 p.m
London, Saturday, 5 October 2013 at 10:00 p.m
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20131006T10&p1=22&p2=179&p3=136
